Research question.

[aquabean]

When the Fuhrer stabs Roy, how big would you say the wound is? I'm thinking several inches long, at least, but I'd like other opinions. There's also the issue of how deep it is. Roy looks pretty much pinned to the wall, but does it really seem like the blade goes all the way through Roy's shoulder? Fanon doesn't seem to really deal with it at all, so I was curious.

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[trensaddiction.livejournal.com]

hmm. Good question. To me, it looked like he stabbed through to the shoulder blade, then pivoted the sword in an arc (the point against the bone or possibly the wall, while the blade sliced). The wound at the skin level looked about three or four inches long to me, but the clothing would have moved more than the skin, so that is probably an overestimation. What amazes me is how he apparently missed Roy's heart and pericardium etirely as well as failing to puncture the lung (Roy showed no evidence of aspirated blood during the rest of the scene).

...um. Yeah, I think I watch CSI's crime reconstructions a little too much. *facepalms*

[nightengale.livejournal.com]

O_O

You scare/impress/intimidate me.

your icon doesn't help. >_<;

[runefallstar.livejournal.com]

If Diego weren't going through another sort of epileptic fit I'd watch the episode again, but from what I remember, I think you're probably right.

Though, the blade missing Roy's heart makes sense. The part of the shoulder that is stabbed is rather high for that. Having found Human Anatomy Online (http://www.innerbody.com/htm/body.html), however, I'd have to agree with your assessment of the artery situation. That had to have been a close call. The sword also goes in at a downward angle and must have been stopped by the bone of his shoulder-blade, because other wise it went through the bone and there's no way he would have been able to carry the kid at the end there, if it had.

All of this is for fic research and it leaves me questioning the kind of permanent muscle and tendon damage that must have been done. Coming in and down *makes hand points to own shoulder just in from the joint* here, and then twisting to move in further, would certainly have cut through a fair amount of connective tissue. Would he, even after a recovery time of several years, have full range of motion in that arm? It seems a good deal messier than a simple stab or bullet wound, and I'd think that would have the potential to affect movement all the way down his side. Not to mention the fact that I think he was stabbed on that side as well.

*laughs* Your attention to detail can only help me at this point. *G*

[trensaddiction.livejournal.com]

Okay, having now watched that three seconds of footage way too many times, two things: #1 apparently, he did stab through to the wall (the blood spot revealed when Roy moved was indicative) and #2 due to the fact that Roy is subsequently able to use his left arm to withdraw the weapon, I have to assume that the shoulder blade was not pierced, or it would have precluded movement of the arm. So anyway, this further leads me to believe that the penetration angle of the saber must have been fairly high, cutting into the pectoral muscles just below the clavical (sp). While tendon damage could potentially have been minimal, the injury to the pectoral muscle would have been of such a type as to likely require a lengthy recuperation period. Arm motion and function after the recuperation would be highly dependant on the amount and type of physical therapy undergone. While I could see potential for full recovery, I could also see potential for severely limited range of motion up to and including diminished lung capacity. It all hinges on whether he takes the time to let it heal correctly and then forces himself to do all the things it would take to finish fixing it. Given Roy's rather...ah, lazy/crazy attitude towards his own physical well being, there's a lot of room for stupidity. *smirks* But that's just my opinion. Take with salt. =)

[runefallstar.livejournal.com]

Okay, seriously, that's excellent.

Let's take this question in another direction then. What about the eye patch?

Rana and I were discussing it the other day and the real problem element of it becomes the fact that the patch itself covers so much of his face. Obviously the eye doesn't work any more, but what kind of damage did his face sustain? Rana was saying that if one of Archer's bullets hit the cheekbone at the right angle it would have forced a piece of the bone up and into the eye. It would have quite effectively blind Roy, but it might also leave behind the visible damage that would warrant a patch the size Roy's sporting at the end there. Because, really, this can't be a pretty injury in any capacity.